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Xray's Physics Challenge #1 (Inertia)

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Author: Xray

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Filesize: 51.14 kB

Date added: 2015-07-10

Rating: 6.5

Downloads: 814

Views: 675

Comments: 30

Ratings: 4

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Made with: Algodoo v2.1.0

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This is the first scene in my series of Physics Challenge scenes for kids and adults who do not understand basic physics concepts. I don't know how many more scenes in this series that I will create, but I'll make at least a few for now until I get tired of making them.

In this Inertia Challenge, you have to slow down and stop a swinging weight by engaging a thruster at just the right times in the arc. The challenge continues for 60 seconds, but you have to try to stop the swinging weight in as short a time as possible. After the 60 second timer reaches zero, the scene automatically stops, and then you can "undo" the scene and restart it to try again for a shorter Swing Time period.

My shortest Swing Time so far has been 14.7 seconds. Leave a comment with your shortest Swing Time!

UPDATE: The swing timer was stopping each time the red mass would pass by the bottom center point of the arc. Even though the time period is very small, it still made for an inaccurate timer. Now I've corrected it so that the only time the swing timer stops is when the red mass is at the bottom of its arc, AND when the angular velocity ("angvel") value is close to zero (in other words when the weight is truly very close to not swinging. I made the timer stop when it's "close" to zero. If I made the timer stop only when the swing is actually completely stopped, then it would probably never stop because every little shake or shimmy would prevent the timer from stopping.

UPDATE2: Improved accuracy of swing timer as suggested by s_noonan. THANKS S_NOONAN! :tup:
Last edited at 2015/07/11 17:05:11 by Xray
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47.8 seconds.
14.3 seconds
12.8 sec with old version
Last edited at 2015/07/12 00:22:42 by s_noonan
1.3 sec

because i TOTALLY did not cheat by using the drag tool
13.6 seconds
my reaction
-1.0
Holy cow! swe man exceeded the SPEED OF LIGHT! :o
@Xray or a time machine...
14.3 at the first try
13.8 now but it is not an accurate timer because everytime you pass by the arrow, the time stops a little moment... you know what I mean Xray?
SA - The timer is SUPPOSED to stop each time the mass passes by the white arrow! That's what stops the timer when you slow down the mass and then stop it with the left arrow key. It actually helps rather than hurts your score!

EDIT - I will work on something a little different that might make the timer more accurate. If I come up with something, I'll edit the scene and post a comments as to what I did.

Thanks!
Last edited at 2015/07/10 19:44:00 by Xray
First try I got 19.8, after a few more I was able to narrow it down to the 13 range consistently. My best was 12.4.
Anyone know why my comment was deleted?
mm122 - I sent you a warning message. Didn't you receive it? Anyhow if you did not receive it for some reason, I'll tell you here why I deleted your comment. We do not allow profanity in comments or in scenes. You used an abbreviation of a profane rhetorical question which is like "What the heck!" (wth). Obviously, I cannot repeat here what you said because then I would be violating the Algodoo Terms of Service! So, please do not use any more profane abbreviations because they are the same as posting the spelled out version of the profane words.

Do you understand this?
[late joke]
Swe man, fastest man alive:lol:
I choose orange! Oops, wrong scene.
Last edited at 2015/07/11 19:24:38 by s_noonan
Now the best I can get is 17.6 sec manually and 14.4 sec with code.
Last edited at 2015/07/12 13:18:25 by s_noonan
I thought orange was eliminated!

Oh crud..... I'm on the wrong scene too! :bonk:

Yeah, I could mod the code to help me cheat too, but the most efficient way to cheat is just use the drag tool! :y
14.6!
I was trying to figure out what is the shortest time possible. Judging form Rivet's response, I'm not there yet.

P.S. Now 14.4 sec with code that tries to imitate optimal response.
Last edited at 2015/07/12 13:21:52 by s_noonan
I see. I too was wondering what the best possible score is, assuming that the thrust was engaged on each back-swing during the optimal time along the pendulum's trajectory. But then I was thinking about differences in computers, and how much influence on the timer that those differences might have. I used system.time rather than sim.time because system.time does not vary due to scene lag and other software influences. But what about other unknown issues? If we were to run your test code on, say ten, different computers, would the results be the same?:s
Yes I understand xD I'l not use them here anymore.
mm122 - Okay, Thanks! :tup:
Just while I was goofing around I managed to get a 360 out of it :lol:
Last edited at 2015/07/14 23:26:35 by pnvv
I don't understand how you can get a time of 360 when the Remaining Time timer times out after 60 seconds! :s How did you do that? :o
Q: If we were to run your test code on, say ten, different computers, would the results be the same?
A: No, since the results are not always the same on one computer.

There is probably a way to calculate the theoretical minimum time.

One way to cheat is to increase the simulation speed.

Q: How can you get a time of 360 when the Remaining Time timer times out after 60 seconds?
A: Pause while swinging.
"A: Pause while swinging." -- Oy Vey! The human mind is so inventive when it comes to cheating on anything! :lol:
Braking Time:

PE = 28.7 Joules
F = 2.5 Newtons
d = PE/F = 11.48 meters

d = 0.5 * a * t^2
t =(2 * d / a)^0.5

m = 2 kg
a = F/m
a = 1.25 m/s^2

t = (2 * 11.48 / 1.25)^0.5
bt = 4.29 seconds

Non-Braking Time:

period = 3.9 seconds
number of periods = 2.25

nbt = 3.9 * 2.25
nbt = 8.78

Total Time:
tt = bt + nbt
tt = 4.29 + 8.78
tt = 13.07

This is the minimum stop time. This time does not account for air resistance during braking, or the last braking pulse, which would tend to increase this time slightly.
Nice! :tup:
25.9