8/3/2011- Evolution Simulator V6.2

[Blazemann]

That could be helpful. I am going to release V6.1 without random mutations just because it has already had over 200 subversions.(yes, over 200 for just V6-V6.1)

[Blazemann]

V6.1 RELEASED FINALLY!!!

Okay, now to the mutations...

[Someone Else]

I might suggest changing the male and female textures. Perhaps a simple square for male and circle for female.

These would be much easier to align with the actual circle, and it would be easier to see which texture it actually is.

With the current textures, however, I would suggest adding this to the spawn code right after "texture := scene.my.gg;":

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textureMatrix := {{texture == "male"} ? {[1.0000000000000000, 0.50000000000000000, 0.50000000000000000, 0.00000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000, 0.50000000000000000, 0.00000000000000000, 0.00000000000000000, 0.00000000000000000]} : {[1.0000000000000000, 0.00000000000000000, 0.50000000000000000, 0.00000000000000000, 1.0000000000000000, 0.50000000000000000, 0.00000000000000000, 0.00000000000000000, 0.00000000000000000]}};

This will place the texture so it actually shows up more or less centered in the circle. It will skew the male texture a good bit, this is so the arrow shows up somewhere just inside the circle.

[Blazemann]

Thanks, I will update it now.

Edit: Updated. Thanks for that.

[Blazemann]

Going on with randomness(i will be making new textures), will the function scene.my.randGeneticPan(0,1,0.5) then produce a number between 0.25 and 0.75? Sorry not to test it myself.

[TC42]

You may want to check the console while running the sim... this scene generates dozens of warnings.

[Blazemann]

You may want to check the console while running the sim... this scene generates dozens of warnings.

There are only two and they are intentional. You got dozens perhaps by restarting the scene often.

[Gear97]

Wow ! The new version is really good I love the population statics it makes the scene much more interesting to watch.
But I think these new textures hmm.. It is good to able to see the genders but it kinda makes the whole thing a bit boring, I like it more when they were "solid colors", maybe you could make a texture the is smaller and with a white background so that you still seeing the gender but the color is still very present.
So far amazing work ! Congratz.

[Blazemann]

Wow ! The new version is really good I love the population statics it makes the scene much more interesting to watch.
But I think these new textures hmm.. It is good to able to see the genders but it kinda makes the whole thing a bit boring, I like it more when they were "solid colors", maybe you could make a texture the is smaller and with a white background so that you still seeing the gender but the color is still very present.
So far amazing work ! Congratz.

Thanks again for the support, and as for the request, it has been done. I just uploaded the fix.

[Gear97]

Thanks. Alot better now
Hmm.. I've got to make you a suggestion.
Why don't try to make a scene involving a genetic algorithm or something like several creatures searching for food and then one of them is born with a new mutation that makes it faster.. and so on..
Can you try making it ? It is my dream of a life/evolution simulation

[Mag8328]

Blazemann, many kudos for you. This is very interesting and I can see this project become something really big and epic. Here's a pros and cons list I think of your evolution sim to help iron out some wrinkles.

Pros (Things to build on):
They clump together to simulate villages, cities, etc. and create distinct 'races'
They have genes/traits (make a variety of genes)
The population counter (add more features to it maybe like a trait counter)

Cons (Things to fix):
Population gets to big and lags. (Maybe slow reproduction or add pop. cap)
Undramatic (add diseases, add resorces, make the distinct 'races' fight after they evolved for a while [sim.time])

One more thing. Since you want them to be more human like, add culture. It might be hard but I'll be soooo worth it.

Again, lots of kudos. Don't take this as critism, I only intend for it to help you.

[Blazemann]

Thank you both for your opinions. I can see a common desire, a goal. They need to need something.

I am going to try to add(this came out with two "s"s by accident ) plantlife. This will be a food source. Other resources will be easier to add after that.

One thing is that I want my plants to grow, spawn seeds, and make more plants, and then die. The problem is lag. Every object adds a lot for me, and I am not running too weak a system(albeit a laptop). As said above, over time it is bad. After about 100 circles I am in slowmo. I could imply that by adding a need for food, this would be remedied, but food would only take its place.

Ultimately I am asking this: Is the idea of resources worth lag?

[Someone Else]

Scene.my.randGeneticPan(0, 1, 0.5) will indeed spit out a number between 0.25 and 0.75.

However, for various reasons, I cannot test it right now, I will try to remember to do it tomorrow.

Perhaps the solution to the "resources vs resources" problem may well be this: Set the sim speed (sim.timeFactor) to 1.0e-005 and use some lasers. Pressing 1 will start the simulation (sim.timeFactor = 1.0) with plants, pressing 2 will start the simulation without plants to reduce lag (use fewer of the computer's resources).

[Rrobba]

Cool.

[Mag8328]

I could probably help make different possible resources. I'm an intermediate at thyme and could help make a beta version of plant life. I would imagine the plants be brown squares, males spawn tiny white squares, and when the white squares come into contact with a female plant, the female will drop a tiny plant. 1-4 seed stage (same size). 5-8 juvenile stage(grows). 9-14 mature (able to spawn/reproduce).

[Gear97]

I agree with all of you, plantlife is a the best choice for a possible resource, but I would like it more if it was like algaes (well algaes aren't exactly plants..), the algaes would reproduce asexually just by self-division, this makes things much more simplier
PS: I am thinking that this is getting to big ?? What about we start a collab to do this ? Anyone supports ?
PSS: We could make a Sandbox Collab so that we could not only mkae life sims but several other sims.

[Mag8328]

I agree with making a huge collab. I mean, come on. Look at my sig. I already have a beta plant prototype. Let's have different collaborations all in one huge one. Like space sandbox, evolution sandbox etc.

[Blazemann]

I could probably help make different possible resources. I'm an intermediate at thyme and could help make a beta version of plant life. I would imagine the plants be brown squares, males spawn tiny white squares, and when the white squares come into contact with a female plant, the female will drop a tiny plant. 1-4 seed stage (same size). 5-8 juvenile stage(grows). 9-14 mature (able to spawn/reproduce).

Thanks for the offer, but while normally I would accept a partner, I am doing this as a learning experience. Everything that goes in, I must learn to understand myself first.

I am putting up V6.2 soon. Not nearly as many changes as V6.1, but I feel that I can add randomness as I wish now. It was a form-reform, not a sim-changing revision.

However, now circles have only 10 Life. Mating lowers(technically raises) that life by 1. Children are produced between 2-7 Life. Circles are now Half-Sized. Variation in radii(radius pl.) are now much more noticeable. There
is now now middle circles. I found that they staled out too often.

UPDATE V6.2 RELEASED


TO GEAR97:
I think asexual reproduction is a great idea for the resource.

[Blazemann]

I don't think this would do so well in a collab.

[Mag8328]

I understand and respect your decision not to do a collab. But can we at least still give you ideas and suggestions, right?

[Blazemann]

I understand and respect your decision not to do a collab. But can we at least still give you ideas and suggestions, right?

Always.

[Mag8328]

For the 6.2 version, some male and female signs are kinda to big and run off of the circles. Maybe you should make the sign size proportional to the circle radius.

[Gear97]

Congratulations for the improvoments, it is even better now !
Hmm.. ?? I made little experiment, I started the simulation with all the circles have the same color, [0.5,0.5,0.5,1], and I tought that during the simulation random color changes should naturally appear, but they all stay with the same color during the whole simulation.

[Blazemann]

Congratulations for the improvoments, it is even better now !
Hmm.. ?? I made little experiment, I started the simulation with all the circles have the same color, [0.5,0.5,0.5,1], and I tought that during the simulation random color changes should naturally appear, but they all stay with the same color during the whole simulation.

No, I ditched the current random color generation. It was faulty. Size is the only mutating thing.

As for the previous post of the gender signs, that is a glitch-- rather a human error. I resized the circles, but forgot to fix the texture. This will be remedied before 6.3.

Currently, my plantlife is... having problems. 6.3 looks a long way off(1-3 days for me )

[Blazemann]

For the 6.2 version, some male and female signs are kinda to big and run off of the circles. Maybe you should make the sign size proportional to the circle radius.

Is there a way to make it proportional? If not I can just make it half sized and it will fit all well enough.