1.9.4 wont open

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1.9.4 wont open

Postby Wild Bill » Mon May 09, 2011 3:33 pm

Installed to a new directory separate from old version. I get a window that says Algodoo QT in the bar across the top, in the middle of the screen it says "Time to mediate...", and a windows error box that says error has occurred and Algodoo needs to close.
No error log.

Im using Windows XP 64 bit.
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Emanuel » Mon May 09, 2011 3:41 pm

Hmm, does the error box say anything more?

Try change the name of config.cfg located in My documents/Algodoo/ and start Algodoo again.
Running 1.9.4 with an old config might create some weird errors.

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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Wild Bill » Mon May 09, 2011 4:02 pm

I have changed the config name, I have even uninstalled all versions and re-installed 1.9.4 only an that didnt fix it. maybe this will help.

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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Emanuel » Mon May 09, 2011 4:30 pm

It appears to be related to your graphics card.
Could you please try to update your graphics drivers (instructions here)?
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Wild Bill » Mon May 09, 2011 6:37 pm

Latest driver installed, same thing.
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Wild Bill » Mon May 09, 2011 9:32 pm

Log file:



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Algodoo v1.9.4, Win32
May 09 2011, 12:29:14
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12:29:14: Loading language English...
12:29:14: argv[0] == "C:\Program Files\Algodoo\Algodoo.exe"
12:29:14: Looking for stored registration info...
12:29:14: Looking for DCS API...
12:29:14: No tablet found (or Wintab32.dll missing)
12:29:14: Loading Algodoo/chains/chain.phn...
12:29:15: Imported phunlet Algodoo/chains/chain.phn
12:29:15: Loading Algodoo/chains/rope.phn...
12:29:15: Imported phunlet Algodoo/chains/rope.phn
12:29:15: Initializing thread-pool...
12:29:15: Parsing Algodoo/autoexec.cfg...
12:29:16: 28 resources loaded
12:29:16: Window created.
12:29:16: First time running Algodoo
12:29:16: Loading default skin...
12:29:16: Loading skin "default"...
12:29:17: Skin loaded
12:29:18: Prefetching resources...
12:29:26: Creating GUI...
12:29:26: Loading language Svenska...
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for SaveAsX_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ToolThruster_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ToolEraser
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for CenterThruster
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for UpdateAlgoboxScene
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for Scene_Title
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for Force_Fit_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for EdgeBlur
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for OverwriteX
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for SceneWindow
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ShowSceneOnAlgobox_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ToolEraser_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for UndoDrop
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for Option_AirFrictionLinear
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ThrusterMenu
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for OverwriteX_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for SaveAsX
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for UpdateAlgoboxScene_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ShowSceneOnAlgobox
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ShowGeomMomentum_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for Scene_Dir
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for CenterThruster_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for SaveAndPublish
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for LocalSceneBrowser
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for EdgeBlur_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for Force_Fit
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for SaveAndPublish_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for SavedSceneToX
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ThrusterActivationKey
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ToolThruster
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for AlgoboxBrowser
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for SavedScreenshotToX
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ThrusterForce
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ThrusterFollowGeometry
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for Option_AirFrictionQuadratic
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ThrusterMenuButton
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for LocalSceneletBrowser
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for ShowGeomMomentum
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for AlgoboxBrowser_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for UploadResultsWindowTitle
12:29:26: -- Warning: Missing Svenska translation for LocalSceneletBrowser_Tooltip
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "Scene_FileName" which was not found in the English original
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "ToolChain_Options" which was not found in the English original
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "SavePhunletMenu" which was not found in the English original
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "ToolSketch_Options" which was not found in the English original
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "ToolBrush_Options" which was not found in the English original
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "ToolCut_Options" which was not found in the English original
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "NoOverwrite" which was not found in the English original
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "ToolPolygon_Options" which was not found in the English original
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "ToolGears_Options" which was not found in the English original
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "SavePhunletButton" which was not found in the English original
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "DoOverwrite" which was not found in the English original
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "ToolBox_Options" which was not found in the English original
12:29:26: -- Warning: Svenska had "LoadingMessage" which was not found in the English original
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby electronicboy » Mon May 09, 2011 11:28 pm

my only suggestion is to uninstall and reinstall your graphics drivers.

The log file looks like its either not loading your openGL drivers, or it isnt even detecting the card.
well, thats my 2 cents on the situation, well, 2 pennies :D
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Wild Bill » Mon May 09, 2011 11:58 pm

electronicboy wrote:my only suggestion is to uninstall and reinstall your graphics drivers.

The log file looks like its either not loading your openGL drivers, or it isnt even detecting the card.
well, thats my 2 cents on the situation, well, 2 pennies :D



1.8.5 runs fine, is something different with 1.9.4 to cause a driver problem?
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby electronicboy » Tue May 10, 2011 12:49 am

i have a feeling that they might have updated a few majour components (causing the crashes as well as missing texture problem).

If they have done this, it may cause problem with older/low spec hardware.

I know that kutis experienced the texture bug on a vista laptop, while his desktop which he did up at christmas ran fine.
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Wild Bill » Tue May 10, 2011 2:59 pm

Any ideas from Algodoo? I have tried many things and still nothing.
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Emanuel » Tue May 10, 2011 4:03 pm

It seems to crash when the scene is about to load, but I guess you have already tried deleting _ONEXITSAVE.phz, _AUTOSAVE.phz and config.cfg?

This is before even OpenGL is loaded which makes the problem hard to solve without the computer to test with. Algodoo is now using something called Qt for handling the window and since Qt can be used to do a lot of different things, it might have higher requirements on the computer (as electronicboy stated).

Is the graphics card old?
Do you have the option to try without Windows 64-bit?

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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Wild Bill » Tue May 10, 2011 6:27 pm

The graphics card is an ATI Radeon 9600, Amd 64 Athlon3200 processor.
I dont have any way to run Algodoo on 32 bit.
I have tried after deleting Config, onexitsave, autosave, and uninstalled all versions.

Heres the last log after another reinstall...


09:07:17: Parsing Algodoo/autoexec.cfg...
09:07:17: Parsing Algodoo/config.cfg...
09:07:17: Creating window, size=[800, 600], fullscreen=false
09:07:19: 24 resources loaded
09:07:19: Window created.
09:07:19: Creating window, size=[800, 600], fullscreen=false
09:07:20: 63 resources loaded
09:07:20: Window created.
09:07:20: Initializing thread-pool...
09:07:20: Prefetching resources...
09:07:32: Creating GUI...
09:07:33: AppGUI::LoadScene "games & phun/Welcome", automatic = true
09:07:33: Loading Algodoo/scenes/games & phun/Welcome.phz...
09:07:38: Loaded scene games & phun/Welcome.phz
09:07:38: Running program...


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Algodoo v1.9.4, Win32
May 10 2011, 09:15:15
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09:15:15: Creating directory "Algodoo/scenes/phunlets/"...
09:15:15: Loading language English...
09:15:15: argv[0] == "C:\Program Files\Algodoo\Algodoo.exe"
09:15:15: Looking for stored registration info...
09:15:15: Looking for DCS API...
09:15:15: No tablet found (or Wintab32.dll missing)
09:15:16: Loading Algodoo/chains/chain.phn...
09:15:16: Imported phunlet Algodoo/chains/chain.phn
09:15:16: Loading Algodoo/chains/rope.phn...
09:15:16: Imported phunlet Algodoo/chains/rope.phn
09:15:16: Initializing thread-pool...
09:15:16: Parsing Algodoo/autoexec.cfg...
09:15:16: Parsing Algodoo/config.cfg...
09:15:16: -- Warning: Caught Exception: Not a list, source\script\Attributes.hpp:167: void script::TAttrib<class std::vector<util::String,class std::allocator<util::String> > >::CalcValueFromObject(void)
09:15:16: -- Warning: Language.fallbackFontName was bound to bad type. Restoring to last known value.
09:15:16: -- Warning: Failed to evaluate: WebCam -> {
flipVert = false;
flipHoriz = false
}, Cannot find identifier "WebCam" in "[ROOT]"
09:15:16: Loading language English...
09:15:18: 75 resources loaded
09:15:18: Window created.
09:15:18: Upgrading to v1.9.4
09:15:18: Loading default skin...
09:15:18: Loading skin "default"...
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby electronicboy » Wed May 11, 2011 12:29 am

do you have any spare harddisks (internal or external) or able to partition your current harddisk.
If you did you would be able to download a copy of 32-bit windows (retail) and use the 30 day "grace" period. (for xp, make sure its a copy of xp home, for windows 7 it dosnt matter.)

I am not sure of the true legality of this, but i am sure that it is legal as you are using the free trail offered by microsoft.
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Wild Bill » Wed May 11, 2011 1:49 am

No spare or external hard drives. I would think if it were 64 bit causing it that there would have been someone else with the same problem by now. I have a laptop but its too slow (466mhz) for Algodoo, besides its dedicated to run my telescope and cameras for astronomy and I dont want anything else on that computer.
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby TC42 » Wed May 11, 2011 2:23 am

I'm using Windows XP Home 32-bit, and it at least opens. Though it is not really functional after it has opened due to the whole square/not textured gui thing.

You've already tried reinstalling 1.9.4 and restarting your computer, haven't you?

I hope this helps...
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Wild Bill » Wed May 11, 2011 2:36 am

TC42 wrote:You've already tried reinstalling 1.9.4 and restarting your computer, haven't you?

I hope this helps...



Yep, I have uninstalled all versions and reinstalled 3 times. And I have tried a lot of other things including card driver. I may try to uninstall one more time and try downloading the 1.9.4 installer again in case it was messed up during the download the 1st time (not likely but Im desperate!).
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby TC42 » Wed May 11, 2011 3:07 am

I think that I've tried everything that you've tried, and 1.9.4 stubbornly remains square and textureless...

I don't think re-downloading will help :cry: It didn't help me, anyway; I downloaded it 3 times to no avail. Good luck; I hope that someone can fix this soon!
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Wild Bill » Wed May 11, 2011 3:17 am

Good luck to you too TC42.
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Re: 1.9.4 wont open

Postby Wild Bill » Sat May 14, 2011 8:09 pm

FIXED! uninstalled driver yet again and installed a different one.
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