Algodoo on the iPad

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I know this has been suggested before but I've seen how many iPad have been sold now and the capabilities it has. I've been developing Inferno (Web Browser) for the iPad and I've found the iPad is amazing to develop for so why can't algodoo be on it?!

[Rrobba]

Algodoo would work well on iPad, however I'm not getting one because it's just an enlarged iPod Touch with a couple of extra features tacked on...

[Chronos]

NO.

Damn...

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Algodoo would work well on iPad, however I'm not getting one because it's just an enlarged iPod Touch with a couple of extra features tacked on...

True

However in Autumn, the new software update will make the iPad amazing and I will definitely get one then. I love the multitasking bit because I could listen to spotify and play algodoo at the same time *hint* *hint*.

[Mystery]

Well on the topic of apple products, the iPhone OS 4 will have large performance upgrades. http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/04/08/ ... ne-os-4-0/
actually all it gives you is what you already get if you both to jailbreak

[Dakta]

Algodoo would work well on iPad, however I'm not getting one because it's just an enlarged iPod Touch with a couple of extra features tacked on...

You, good sir, fail.

The iPad is not an enlarged/enhanced iTouch. The iTouch is a shrunk down, dumbed down iPad.

And that is exactly the point. It's a big iTouch. With a truly useful screen size and better processor. If you still don't get it... The netbook people had the correct diagnosis, but the wrong solution. Diagnosis: Easy to use, lightweight, portable, piece of paper sized device for surfing the web, writing emails, playing simple games, reading, watching videos and movies, listening to music, and doing lightweight content creation. Their solution does most of that, but the interface is clunky, it doesn't hold well in one hand, the invariably small screens don't display text as well as not having decent font smoothing, they don't work well as an eBook reader (shape/size and font smoothing, as well as software), and a host of other things. The iPad does everything that most netbook buyers need. It surfs the web, does email, is easy to use (except the filesystem, which they need to fix), it has amazing font smoothing, it does videos, movies, music, holds well in one or two hands, does light weight content creation... It's not a netbook. It's not a laptop. It's not a desktop computer. It is something else entirely. I'm personally waiting for my webdesign tool Coda for iPad and at least the second generation (bug fixes, improvements, price reduction) before getting one. But I think an iPad will be almost perfectly suited for many of my needs. Don't try and make it something it is not.

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I think an iPad version of Algodoo is just what is needed. It's one of those almost perfect apps. Medium requirement physics sim, with controls already designed for touch interface. Sure, you couldn't simulate as many objects or as much water as on a computer, but it would be awesome none the less.

[Chronos]

I doubt the iPad has enough resources to run it smoothly, though.

[Dakta]

It's a powerful 1GhZ processor with god knows what graphics hardware. It seems to run really fast. I think you could easily simulate simple things, things without excessive textures, not a lot of water, etc. It wouldn't be amazing, but you could do simple teaching stuff on it easily.

[Mystery]

Powerful and 1Ghz in the same sentence And i highly doubt its graphical hardware is decent. Your brainwashed into paying twice as much for a product because it has a shiny apple on it.

[Chronos]

It's a powerful 1GhZ processor with god knows what graphics hardware. It seems to run really fast. I think you could easily simulate simple things, things without excessive textures, not a lot of water, etc. It wouldn't be amazing, but you could do simple teaching stuff on it easily.

But that's what the Classmate PC is for.

[Mystery]

It's a powerful 1GhZ processor with god knows what graphics hardware. It seems to run really fast. I think you could easily simulate simple things, things without excessive textures, not a lot of water, etc. It wouldn't be amazing, but you could do simple teaching stuff on it easily.

But that's what the Classmate PC is for.

That about Sums it up, why make something we already have.
I could never use an iPad, can't take it seriously enough. I still think it's a badly timed April Fools joke.

[Chronos]

Yeah, it's like buying shoes and realizing that they're three times as big as they should be. It's funny, but it wastes money and looks rather stupid.

[Dakta]

Powerful and 1Ghz in the same sentence And i highly doubt its graphical hardware is decent. Your brainwashed into paying twice as much for a product because it has a shiny apple on it.

You don't get it do you? I guess not. Oh well.. No point wasting my efforts here.

[davidz40]

I have 1.6Ghz, 512 mb Ram and GeForce 5200, and I can run relatively smoothly all algodoo scenes except few extreme ones. So I think that Ipad could do it too.

[Mystery]

Powerful and 1Ghz in the same sentence And i highly doubt its graphical hardware is decent. Your brainwashed into paying twice as much for a product because it has a shiny apple on it.

You don't get it do you? I guess not. Oh well.. No point wasting my efforts here.

No please try i find the way you fight so desperately for apple funny.

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iPad specs are these:-

Processor: 1GHz
Ram: 256MB
Storage: 16 - 64GB
GPU: Built into Processor so unknown

Algodoo Minimum Requirements:
Processor: 1GHz
Ram: 256MB
Storage: 40MB+
GPU: 96MB Video Card

[Chronos]

Minimum requirements. Do you know how awfully Algodoo runs on 256MB of RAM? It's not very good, lemmetellya.

[xplane80]

Yes I know that but the iPad isn't a FULL computer. I haven't been on one yet (I live in England) and maybe, 256MB maybe enough.

[Chronos]

It isn't enough. Believe me, I know.

[Dakta]

Powerful and 1Ghz in the same sentence And i highly doubt its graphical hardware is decent. Your brainwashed into paying twice as much for a product because it has a shiny apple on it.

You don't get it do you? I guess not. Oh well.. No point wasting my efforts here.

No please try i find the way you fight so desperately for apple funny.

Go troll somewhere else.

[Rrobba]

It's a powerful 1GhZ processor with god knows what graphics hardware. It seems to run really fast. I think you could easily simulate simple things, things without excessive textures, not a lot of water, etc. It wouldn't be amazing, but you could do simple teaching stuff on it easily.

But that's what the Classmate PC is for.

Exactly, we do not need another version of something we have!

[xplane80]

I wonder how long it will take until someone get linux or mac on the ipad and thus algodoo on the ipad.

[Chronos]

That would be fine, because Algoryx wouldn't have to waste their time on it. I'm pretty sure they'd have to rewrite the code to make it work on the iPad anyway.

[Dakta]

Good call Chronos, since it would have to be written in objective-C to run on the iPad, and be written for the iPad, it would be a lot of work to port it. But I still think it would be a big hit.


@Mystery: I don't have to even try to defend billion dollar corporations, they can defend themselves just fine without my help. And, quite frankly, I don't give a flying fuck about your opinion.


@Everyone: For those of you who don't see what's going on here, an explanation:

When Apple first created the iPod, people said "Nobody is going to pay that much for another MP3 player! We've already got things that play music in a pocket sized device, and they work fine!" Now look where the iPod is at. Over 240 MILLION of them have been sold. They dominate the market, and they're the best.

They said the same thing about the iPhone. Now, Apple has sold over 50 million of them.

There is a predictable thing going on here. Apple announces a product. This product is more expensive than most everything else on the market. It doesn't have all the fancy features, or amazing tech specs. People will say "Nobody is going to pay that much for a [product name]! We already have things that do everything [product name] does, and then some just fine!" And then hundreds of millions of the product are sold, and the nay-sayers look like idiots. This is a repeating pattern. We saw it with the iPod, we saw it with the iPhone, we have seen it with a host of other Apple products. And we're seeing it now with the iPad. This is nothing new.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think these people are ever going to be right. Now if you want to sit with that lot and try and put down every single product they announce, go ahead.

I hope this clears thins up.

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Good call Chronos, since it would have to be written in objective-C to run on the iPad, and be written for the iPad, it would be a lot of work to port it. But I still think it would be a big hit.

@Mystery: I don't have to even try to defend billion dollar corporations, they can defend themselves just fine without my help. And, quite frankly, I don't give a flying fuck about your opinion.

@Everyone: For those of you who don't see what's going on here, an explanation:

When Apple first created the iPod, people said "Nobody is going to pay that much for another MP3 player! We've already got things that play music in a pocket sized device, and they work fine!" Now look where the iPod is at. Over 240 MILLION of them have been sold. They dominate the market, and they're the best.

They said the same thing about the iPhone. Now, Apple has sold over 50 million of them.

There is a predictable thing going on here. Apple announces a product. This product is more expensive than most everything else on the market. It doesn't have all the fancy features, or amazing tech specs. People will say "Nobody is going to pay that much for a [product name]! We already have things that do everything [product name] does, and then some just fine!" And then hundreds of millions of the product are sold, and the nay-sayers look like idiots. This is a repeating pattern. We saw it with the iPod, we saw it with the iPhone, we have seen it with a host of other Apple products. And we're seeing it now with the iPad. This is nothing new.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think these people are ever going to be right. Now if you want to sit with that lot and try and put down every single product they announce, go ahead.

I hope this clears thins up.

1. I know objective-C and it's very easy to learn if you know c or c++
2. You can use other language to write programmes for the iphone/ipod/ipad but you need to make sure you have the framework and usually, it will be a language hybrid e.g. PyObjC, PHPObjC, RubyObjC, D-ObjC, etc.
3. Yes, some people will buy apple products because they are apple. However some people buy apple products because they are built well. I still have my 10 year old G4 Mac at work and it works like a charm; never broke down once (except when I accidentally put the wrong ram in but as soon as I replaced it with the right ram, it worked).

The iPod was successful because it has the best UI user controls compared to some of the ones at the time. The iPhone was successful because it was the best touch screen phone at the time; it was easier to use than other smart phones. The iPad however, may not be successful for these reasons:

It's a little expensive but depends if you need it for work etc. and It uses the iPhone OS.

The iPhone OS may not be a problem because somethings on a normal OS, the average user will not use and the iPhone OS on the iPad doesn't have them.