Extreme Lag help!

[topexx]

I am having this terrible lag every time i run the game something like 1fps and if i make some box to
water my background color changes to same as the water, i haven't spot anything else yet because
the game lags so much. I think i should run nicely whitout lag bacause my friend has got the same
game and it runs much better on less performance computer.

Here is some Information of my current system.
GPU : Ati radeon HD 4890 1gb gddr5
Motherboard :Asus p5q pro
CPU : Intel Core 2 duo e8500 3.16ghz
OS : Microsoft Windows Vista Home premium 64bit
Memory : Kingston Valueram 2gb 800mhz x4

Tell me if you need more information about my system i think there was all required information ,but i maybe
forgot something .

Thanks for advance and i hope for a solve for the problen soon.

Best regards Topexx

[electronicboy]

have you tried updating you gpu drivers

[topexx]

Yes i update all drivers very often (if there is something to update)

[electronicboy]

are you using algodoo or phun?
if you are using windows aero, disable it

[topexx]

Im using Algodoo and Windows standard

[Kilinich]

Im using Algodoo and Windows standard

32bit color depth?

[qwerty57]

smash that computer and get a new one

[topexx]

Yes i use 32bit color depht but i have tried both 32bit and 16bit color depht

[Joel]

Has it always lagged this much, or did it run smoothly at any time? Try resetting the settings, Options->Reset->Reset Configuration and see if that solves the issue. Otherwise, if you can post your logfile (My Documents/Algodoo/logfile) here we might understand the problem better.

Have you updated your drivers via Windows or via the ATI homepage?

[topexx]

Yes it has always lagged this much since i installed it
(from yesterday) i have tried resetting the options and
i have updated gpu drivers from amd (amd is the owner
of ati so its the offical driver provider of ati graphic cards)
i will post the logfile as soon as i get home im using
my phone now

[topexx]

Here it is

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Algodoo v1.6.0, Win32
January 18 2010, 17:13:52
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17:13:52: homedir = Algodoo/
17:13:52: argv[0] == "C:\Program Files (x86)\Algodoo\Algodoo.exe"
17:13:52: Looking for stored registration info...
17:13:52: Loading language English...
17:13:52: Looking for DCS API...
17:13:52: No tablet found (or Wintab32.dll missing)
17:13:52: Parsing Algodoo/autoexec.cfg...
17:13:52: Parsing Algodoo/config.cfg...
17:13:52: Creating window...
17:13:52: 59 resources loaded
17:13:52: Window created.
17:13:52: Creating window...
17:13:53: 59 resources loaded
17:13:53: Window created.
17:13:53: Initializing thread-pool...
17:13:53: Prefetching resources...
17:13:54: Creating GUI...
17:13:54: Loading Algodoo/scenes/games & phun/Welcome.phz...
17:13:55: Loaded scene games & phun/Welcome.phz
17:13:55: Running program...
17:13:56: -- Warning: Water transparency not supported by your computer. Try switching on shaders (anti-aliasing in the options->rendering menu), or upgrade your graphics drivers.
17:14:30: Creating window...
17:14:33: 199 resources loaded
17:14:33: Window created.


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Algodoo v1.6.0, Win32
January 18 2010, 18:44:31
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18:44:31: homedir = Algodoo/
18:44:31: argv[0] == "C:\Program Files (x86)\Algodoo\Algodoo.exe"
18:44:31: Looking for stored registration info...
18:44:31: Loading language English...
18:44:31: Looking for DCS API...
18:44:31: No tablet found (or Wintab32.dll missing)
18:44:31: Parsing Algodoo/autoexec.cfg...
18:44:31: Parsing Algodoo/config.cfg...
18:44:31: Creating window...
18:44:32: 73 resources loaded
18:44:32: Window created.
18:44:32: Initializing thread-pool...
18:44:32: Prefetching resources...
18:44:33: Creating GUI...
18:44:33: Loading Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz...
18:44:33: Loaded scene Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz
18:44:33: Running program...
18:49:21: Creating window...
18:49:23: 181 resources loaded
18:49:23: Window created.
18:50:05: -- Warning: Water transparency not supported by your computer. Try switching on shaders (anti-aliasing in the options->rendering menu), or upgrade your graphics drivers.
19:03:26: -- Warning: Water transparency not supported by your computer. Try switching on shaders (anti-aliasing in the options->rendering menu), or upgrade your graphics drivers.
19:04:31: Scene saved to Algodoo/scenes/nyyppä.phz
19:04:51: Overwriting old "Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz"


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Algodoo v1.6.0, Win32
January 18 2010, 19:13:16
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19:13:16: homedir = Algodoo/
19:13:16: argv[0] == "C:\Program Files (x86)\Algodoo\Algodoo.exe"
19:13:16: Looking for stored registration info...
19:13:16: Loading language English...
19:13:16: Looking for DCS API...
19:13:16: No tablet found (or Wintab32.dll missing)
19:13:16: Parsing Algodoo/autoexec.cfg...
19:13:17: Parsing Algodoo/config.cfg...
19:13:17: Creating window...
19:13:17: 83 resources loaded
19:13:17: Window created.
19:13:17: Initializing thread-pool...
19:13:17: Prefetching resources...
19:13:19: Creating GUI...
19:13:19: Loading Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz...
19:13:22: Loaded scene Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz
19:13:22: Running program...
19:13:22: -- Warning: Water transparency not supported by your computer. Try switching on shaders (anti-aliasing in the options->rendering menu), or upgrade your graphics drivers.
19:14:14: Loading Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz...
19:14:17: Loaded scene Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz
19:14:17: -- Warning: Water transparency not supported by your computer. Try switching on shaders (anti-aliasing in the options->rendering menu), or upgrade your graphics drivers.
19:18:50: Overwriting old "Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz"


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Algodoo v1.6.0, Win32
January 18 2010, 19:30:04
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19:30:04: homedir = Algodoo/
19:30:04: argv[0] == "C:\Program Files (x86)\Algodoo\Algodoo.exe"
19:30:04: Looking for stored registration info...
19:30:04: Loading language English...
19:30:04: Looking for DCS API...
19:30:04: No tablet found (or Wintab32.dll missing)
19:30:04: Parsing Algodoo/autoexec.cfg...
19:30:04: Parsing Algodoo/config.cfg...
19:30:05: Creating window...
19:30:05: 84 resources loaded
19:30:05: Window created.
19:30:05: Initializing thread-pool...
19:30:05: Prefetching resources...
19:30:07: Creating GUI...
19:30:07: Loading Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz...
19:30:13: Loaded scene Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz
19:30:13: Running program...
19:30:13: -- Warning: Water transparency not supported by your computer. Try switching on shaders (anti-aliasing in the options->rendering menu), or upgrade your graphics drivers.
19:32:18: Overwriting old "Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz"


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Algodoo v1.6.0, Win32
January 18 2010, 19:36:13
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19:36:13: homedir = Algodoo/
19:36:13: argv[0] == "C:\Program Files (x86)\Algodoo\Algodoo.exe"
19:36:13: Looking for stored registration info...
19:36:13: Loading language English...
19:36:13: Looking for DCS API...
19:36:13: No tablet found (or Wintab32.dll missing)
19:36:13: Parsing Algodoo/autoexec.cfg...
19:36:14: Parsing Algodoo/config.cfg...
19:36:14: Creating window...
19:36:14: 84 resources loaded
19:36:14: Window created.
19:36:14: Initializing thread-pool...
19:36:14: Prefetching resources...
19:36:16: Creating GUI...
19:36:16: Loading Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz...
19:36:21: Loaded scene Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz
19:36:21: Running program...
19:36:21: -- Warning: Water transparency not supported by your computer. Try switching on shaders (anti-aliasing in the options->rendering menu), or upgrade your graphics drivers.
19:36:54: Creating window...
19:36:56: 176 resources loaded
19:36:56: Window created.
19:36:57: Creating window...
19:36:59: 176 resources loaded
19:36:59: Window created.
19:38:22: Reseting config...
19:38:22: Deleting "Algodoo/config.cfg"...
19:38:22: Deleting "Algodoo/config.autosave.cfg"...
19:38:22: Deleting "Algodoo/scenes/_AUTOSAVE.phn"...
19:38:22: Deleting "Algodoo/scenes/_ONEXITSAVE.phz"...
19:38:22: Config reset done, closing down


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Algodoo v1.6.0, Win32
January 18 2010, 19:51:48
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19:51:48: homedir = Algodoo/
19:51:48: argv[0] == "C:\Program Files (x86)\Algodoo\Algodoo.exe"
19:51:48: Looking for stored registration info...
19:51:48: Loading language English...
19:51:48: Looking for DCS API...
19:51:48: No tablet found (or Wintab32.dll missing)
19:51:48: Parsing Algodoo/autoexec.cfg...
19:51:48: Parsing Algodoo/config.cfg...
19:51:48: Creating window...
19:51:48: 59 resources loaded
19:51:48: Window created.
19:51:48: Creating window...
19:51:49: 59 resources loaded
19:51:49: Window created.
19:51:49: Initializing thread-pool...
19:51:49: Prefetching resources...
19:51:50: Creating GUI...
19:51:50: Loading Algodoo/scenes/games & phun/Welcome.phz...
19:51:51: Loaded scene games & phun/Welcome.phz
19:51:51: Running program...
19:51:52: -- Warning: Water transparency not supported by your computer. Try switching on shaders (anti-aliasing in the options->rendering menu), or upgrade your graphics drivers.
19:52:05: Creating window...
19:52:07: 200 resources loaded
19:52:07: Window created.
19:52:27: -- Warning: Exception thrown: You have to buy the full version of Algodoo to save scenes with more than 100 objects from C:\emilk\phun\trunk\Source\app\Serializer.cpp:424: void __cdecl app::SerializeEntities(class util::SharedPtr<class script::CodeBlock>,const class std::vector<class util::SharedPtr<class app::Entity>,class std::allocator<class util::SharedPtr<class app::Entity> > > &)


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Algodoo v1.6.0, Win32
January 18 2010, 20:05:35
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20:05:35: homedir = Algodoo/
20:05:35: argv[0] == "C:\Program Files (x86)\Algodoo\Algodoo.exe"
20:05:35: Looking for stored registration info...
20:05:35: Loading language English...
20:05:35: Looking for DCS API...
20:05:35: No tablet found (or Wintab32.dll missing)
20:05:35: Parsing Algodoo/autoexec.cfg...
20:05:35: Parsing Algodoo/config.cfg...
20:05:35: Creating window...
20:05:35: 59 resources loaded
20:05:35: Window created.
20:05:36: Initializing thread-pool...
20:05:36: Prefetching resources...
20:05:37: Creating GUI...
20:05:37: Loading Algodoo/scenes/games & phun/Welcome.phz...
20:05:38: Loaded scene games & phun/Welcome.phz
20:05:38: Running program...
20:05:39: Successfully checked for updates
20:05:39: -- Warning: Water transparency not supported by your computer. Try switching on shaders (anti-aliasing in the options->rendering menu), or upgrade your graphics drivers.
20:05:54: Creating window...
20:05:56: 201 resources loaded
20:05:56: Window created.


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Algodoo v1.6.0, Win32
January 18 2010, 23:12:55
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23:12:55: homedir = Algodoo/
23:12:55: argv[0] == "C:\Program Files (x86)\Algodoo\Algodoo.exe"
23:12:55: Looking for stored registration info...
23:12:55: Loading language English...
23:12:55: Looking for DCS API...
23:12:55: No tablet found (or Wintab32.dll missing)
23:12:55: Parsing Algodoo/autoexec.cfg...
23:12:56: Parsing Algodoo/config.cfg...
23:12:56: Creating window...
23:12:56: 59 resources loaded
23:12:56: Window created.
23:12:56: Initializing thread-pool...
23:12:56: Prefetching resources...
23:12:57: Creating GUI...
23:12:58: Loading Algodoo/scenes/games & phun/Welcome.phz...
23:12:58: Loaded scene games & phun/Welcome.phz
23:12:58: Running program...
23:12:58: -- Warning: Exception thrown: You have to buy the full version of Algodoo to save scenes with more than 100 objects from C:\emilk\phun\trunk\Source\app\Serializer.cpp:424: void __cdecl app::SerializeEntities(class util

[xplane80]

I know how you could stop this problem. Get a Mac. Only joking, just set the settings to the lowest you can on algodoo and then clean you ram of rubbish and then try to open algodoo through cmd. If not sorry. i'm a mac user and if an application does this ever (very rarely though) I just clean the ram, and open app with terminal then it works perfectly.

[topexx]

Not working tried to first empty the ram and after that i booted and then ran algodoo from start > run > C:\Program Files (x86)\Algodoo\algodoo.exe

[electronicboy]

what is your screen resolution?

[topexx]

1920x1080 but same thing whit 1280x1024

[electronicboy]

try running it in 1024 * 768
the lower the resolution the less strain it puts on the gpu and obviously vice-versa

[topexx]

NOt helping but lags maybe a bit less but still unplayable

[electronicboy]

try uninstalling your graphics card software and then reinstalling it.
it may help the problem.

[pixartist]

obviously the problem is neither your hardware nor your operating system...
your drivers are also up to date..

okay try the following:
- when algodoo is running, watch the task manager for processes that take up a lot of memory/cpu, and post what you see here
- try running algodoo in compatibility mode (right click on the shortcut, properties)
- is it lagging constantly (low framerate -> gpu/cpu problem) or are the lags more spiky (-> ram problem)
- are other games lagging/running on low fps for you (games that you should be able to run fine with your hardware)

edit: hm if the game spazzes out (background color changing) this might be some memory leak or so..

[topexx]

The windows xpp sp2 compatibility mode wont help and the game is lagging constantly and other games run very fine like cod 4 runs 90fps all the time whit higest video options and ill try the task manager when i get home

[link0007]

"20:05:39: -- Warning: Water transparency not supported by your computer. Try switching on shaders (anti-aliasing in the options->rendering menu), or upgrade your graphics drivers."

Sounds like you have either a bad GPU, or still wrong drivers.

Have you played with the render settings (shaders, AA, etc) to see if they were a problem?

[pixartist]

"20:05:39: -- Warning: Water transparency not supported by your computer. Try switching on shaders (anti-aliasing in the options->rendering menu), or upgrade your graphics drivers."

Sounds like you have either a bad GPU, or still wrong drivers.

Have you played with the render settings (shaders, AA, etc) to see if they were a problem?

his gpu is fine and his drivers are up to date...

he can run cod4 with 90 fps, obviously the problem is either some weird incompatibility or ... well .. a phun bug...

did you try reinstalling the game ?

[topexx]

yes tried reinstalling

[topexx]

and yes i have played whit the ati ccc

[topexx]

i tested whit task manager its using about 50-75 % of cpu and core 1 is about 75-100% used and core 2 is 100% all the time and algodoo is using 115 mb of memory