A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

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A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby Rrobba » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:21 pm

My Algodoo Suggestions

Here is a list of things that I would love to have added to Algodoo:

-Sounds
-Built-in 100% real-time screen recorder
-Air pressure (with the option to toggle it on or off)
-Collidable springs (with option to toggle on or off)
-Some form of multi-player mode to play on-line with others
-Support for gases
-Fire/combustion!
-Better phunlet menu system
-Eye Dropper Tool (colour/texture copier)
-Support for more things in thyme
-More collision groups
-More realistic water (its realistic now, but it is still easily compressed, which is unrealistic)
-Less performance loss or 'lag' when using water
-More materials (e.g. brick, plastic etc.)
-Soft bodies (pre-made and ready to be used, so that they don't need to be made by hand using water/springs)
-Some form of rope
-Elastics

But a feature that I really want is:

Split-screen (the screen can be split in two, and you can view different places of the scene on each half. For example, on one half of the screen you might be zoomed in to a certain part of a machine that you are making, and on the other half of the screen you can be zoomed out to see the whole machine and make sure it looks right. Or you could be following two separate objects that are very far away from each other, for example on one half of the screen you are watching a car at the far left of the scene, and on the other half of the screen you are on the oposite side of the map looking at a different car. I would also like this to be freely toggled on and off, so that you can have the full screen when you want it, and the split-screen when it can be helpful, and you can switch between tham freely).

Well, those are my suggestions. Feel free to comment on what ones you agree or don't agree with, and sorry if some of them have already been mentioned in the forums before.

-Thanks for reading!
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby KarateBrot » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:49 am

have already been suggested before
  • Sounds
  • Built-in 100% real-time screen recorder
  • Collidable springs
  • Some form of multi-player mode to play on-line with others
  • Support for gases
  • Fire/combustion!
  • Better phunlet menu system
  • More realistic water
  • Less performance loss or 'lag' when using water
  • More materials
  • Soft bodies

I think they didn't have been suggested before
  • Air pressure
  • Eye Dropper Tool
  • Support for 'random' in thyme
  • More collision groups
  • Elastics

More collision groups and the split screen are a good idea. I like the idea, too to have a better overview like in a 3D program where you have top, side, frond and perspective view.

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Soft Bodies
Until real softbodies are implemented you can use this:
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Random numbers
I already made a function for it. I posted it in the "some extra math functions" thread.
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scene.my.memory = 17;

scene.my.random = (min, max)=>
{
      x := scene.my.memory;
      m := 1249 * 373;
      x = x ^ 2 % m;
      x == 0 ? {scene.my.memory = x + 1} : {scene.my.memory = x};
      x * (max - min) / (1249 * 373.0) + min
}


RA2lover also made a random number thing. It works with the random color of spawned geometries
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Ratings: 4
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the rope thing...
you can make your own rope using the chain tool. make custom chains and put a rope texture on it.
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby izacque » Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:44 am

Sounds = support if you can turn them off
screen recorder = support. It can be thymed, but hey, why not?
air pressure = serious lag, no support
Collidable springs = support if it's an option that is default off
Multiplayer = no support. Too much time wasted on coding one feature that could be spent on more productive things
Gases = no support. same reason as air pressure
fire = no support. required way too much coding to look good. can be thymed.
better phunlet menu = not quite sure what you mean
eye dropper = support
More realistic water = no support. the only way to get unrealistic water behavior is to put it in an unrealistic situation
Less lag with water = impossible
more materials = no support. it adds to menu clutter and you can already make custom materials
random in thyme = ambivalent. I like how you have to "invent" random, but I also think random is a good Idea
more collision groups = MAJOR SUPPORT!!!!
rope = no support. It would be either lag-less, or realistic, but not both.
elastics = support. I've heard talk about emil wanting to implement soft bodies and play-dough like stuff, but I don't know if it'll actually happen.
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby KarateBrot » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:01 am

Why did you say air pressure and gases would cause serious lag? you don't know that dude. and less lag with water isn't impossible.
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby niffirg1 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:05 am

I suggested more collision groups back in Phunland. I still support it. some stuff on the list i would support. Literally i was going to post on suggesting air pressure today.
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby DarthRofl » Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:00 pm

Great ideas i support all of them the one thing i whant is



Water creation tool like just a pen

an easyer weapon system to make the bullets come out easyer




But support all ideas there reaqlly good
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby RicH » Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:02 pm

DarthRofl wrote:an easyer weapon system to make the bullets come out easyer

That doesn't even make sense.
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby DarthRofl » Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:05 pm

like a hose to make it easyer to put water in smaller spaces without geting it ever were
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby DarthRofl » Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:07 pm

like for small guns in sences a small canon that shoots things like tracers squares ect
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby RicH » Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:08 pm

You can already do that with Thyme, and some simple mechanics.

Also, use the Edit button.
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby DarthRofl » Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:10 pm

lol right srry its like 2:00 a.m. here im really tired
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby izacque » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:30 am

That's the excuse I always use when I don't follow the rules. :lol:
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby royalblue » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:08 am

Sounds would be really epic! There could be a function where an object plays a sound file upon collision, and there could be toggles for pitch so you could make a piano without going and editing each note of the piano. The possibilities for this are endless. you could make cars sound more realistic, make an iPod, so many things!
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby Frank » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:46 am

SPLIT SCREEN WOULD ROCK THE HOUSE

Nothing else appeals to me, though.
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby Chronos » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:50 am

To me, split-screen is only useful for multiplayer, and in order to have that split-screen multiplayer in Algodoo, you would need two mice, which can't be done. Computers just don't allow it.

Though being able to save camera positions and warp to the later would be nice...
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby Mystery » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:36 pm

Maybe you should make your own topic about that.
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby Chronos » Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:44 pm

Mystery wrote:Maybe you should make your own topic about that.

Eh, it's not like I didn't already or anything...
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby xplane80 » Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:51 pm

@Rrobba
I'm working on an algodoo Pressure now but it is very difficult because Pressure you need 3 dimensions and algodoo is only 2d.

3d Pressure = Force/Area (Pascals)
2d Pressure = Force/Length (Apu (Which is what I propose for algodoo's pressure standard))
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby KarateBrot » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:13 pm

Chronos wrote:To me, split-screen is only useful for multiplayer, and in order to have that split-screen multiplayer in Algodoo, you would need two mice, which can't be done. Computers just don't allow it.

Two mice can be plugged in and they will also work that's no problem. Ever played "The Settlers 2" in multiplayer mode?^^
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby link0007 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 2:33 pm

xplane80 wrote:@Rrobba
I'm working on an algodoo Pressure now but it is very difficult because Pressure you need 3 dimensions and algodoo is only 2d.

3d Pressure = Force/Area (Pascals)
2d Pressure = Force/Length (Apu (Which is what I propose for algodoo's pressure standard))

You can assume the depth is 1 in 2D
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby Chronos » Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:33 pm

KarateBrot wrote:
Chronos wrote:To me, split-screen is only useful for multiplayer, and in order to have that split-screen multiplayer in Algodoo, you would need two mice, which can't be done. Computers just don't allow it.

Two mice can be plugged in and they will also work that's no problem. Ever played "The Settlers 2" in multiplayer mode?^^

Well, when I plug in two mice, they both fight over the cursor.

That, and screen-peeking sucks.
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby TimTheOne » Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:55 pm

-More realistic water (its realistic now, but it is still easily compressed, which is unrealistic)
-Less performance loss or 'lag' when using water

these are the opposite of eachother.

If you make water more realistic, it would lag more.
If you want more realism for water , be sure to have "Compressable fluids" On at The simulation options, and Meta-Surface water rendering On aswell(at the rendering options).
also enabling Anti-aliasing through shaders will create more realism.
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby xplane80 » Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:00 pm

link0007 wrote:
xplane80 wrote:@Rrobba
I'm working on an algodoo Pressure now but it is very difficult because Pressure you need 3 dimensions and algodoo is only 2d.

3d Pressure = Force/Area (Pascals)
2d Pressure = Force/Length (Apu (Which is what I propose for algodoo's pressure standard))

You can assume the depth is 1 in 2D


Yeah you could but then it would be calling it 3d.
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby Paradigm 29 » Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:26 am

xplane80 wrote:
link0007 wrote:
xplane80 wrote:@Rrobba
I'm working on an algodoo Pressure now but it is very difficult because Pressure you need 3 dimensions and algodoo is only 2d.

3d Pressure = Force/Area (Pascals)
2d Pressure = Force/Length (Apu (Which is what I propose for algodoo's pressure standard))

You can assume the depth is 1 in 2D


Yeah you could but then it would be calling it 3d.

And whose to say that Algodoo isn't based on 3d objects that are only allowed to move in 2 dimensions?
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Re: A list of things I would love to be added into Algodoo!

Postby blahblah200 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:40 pm

You could just use Apu = Force/Area, except the Area would be length x height...

Just a thought...
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