ICOR (Robot collab)

[savask]

There is a collab and a lot of people will work on this idea,so everybody will help each other and this will not be so hard like if you was making it only yourself.

And I'll try to make a simple neural network

[Holomanga]

By spinal chord, are you refering to the bone or the nerve?

[Vytas]

Simple Neural Network (ICOR COLLAB)

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I made a simple unweighted neural network 2 layered. hope u can do something with it.

[savask]

2 Holomanga
To the nerve, if I have understood you right.

2 Vytas
Good, but one minus, it is unweighted. I have made a lot of experiments with perceptrons on my calc, and for Algodoo we will use:
array for S-A weights, array for A-R weights and array for storing active/unactive neurons.
May be I'll make robot with perceptron as a brain soon.

[Vytas]

I've updated my neural network, Now all the input connections are weighted. I implemented this neural network in a bot! Hope u can use it in a way.

neural network (ICOR demonstrati­on)

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[Bronie12345]

somehow, i don't get the pricipal of this
i prefer making it hard-scripted incase of bio-simulating

[Vytas]

Yes that would be more reliable I guess. But this simple thing just shows that the ANN works. But I saw savask say the was scripting his own neural network.

[Bronie12345]

if you start the robot in scripted CPUs, you need to stay in scripted CPUs untill you really want to change it...

oh, and i have a servo that might be usefull:

working servo

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it actually isnt a servo because it doesnt read at what point it is, it just sets itself to a certain point.

[savask]

Vytas, it's amazing! But I can't understand how I can learn it... And did you weighted S-A and A-R connections?

Bronie12345, we are going to make a robot's mind basing on structure of humans brain. But as I said some time ago, we wouldn't use millions of neurons, we will replace them with scripts. So don't worry about bio-simulating, there will be hard-scripting too

[RicH]

The structure of the human brain would be hard. :\

[savask]

Not fully like human brain, only basing on it.

[Bronie12345]

once i finished my computer (im now waiting it to come back from a debugger), ill make some Universal ports into it, so we can put memories into the robots

[savask]

I made it!
Robot with neural network as a brain:

Perceptron robot [ICOR]

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All details are in description.

[Vytas]

Well my little robot doesn't actually learn I just changed the weights so It would change direction on impact. But I really like your robot . With a few more output neurons and input U could make a somewhat intelligent robot.

[savask]

Thank's

I'll try to make a camera for him, so it will see

[Vytas]

I like they way this project is going if the mechanical designers would come up with a frame to work with we could really start working

[savask]

Yes, we can't see any platform idea from mechanic designers.
But we can use simple platforms (as mine for example) for our first experiments

[Vytas]

What exactly do u mean with the spinal chord u mean the nerves, but what is the purpose of the spinal chord? And how should it work?

[savask]

It will store unconditional reflexes and to "teach" robot when he is doing something wrong.
For example: if you touch a sharp needle, your arm will go away from it, this is an unconditional reflex. And your spinal chord will say you: "Auch! Will not do so!". The same task will robot's spinal chord do, so we will not need to press a special key for teaching.

[Vytas]

What would be an unconditional reflex for the robot then?

[savask]

For the robot we have now, it can be very big value on the pressure sensor.

[Bronie12345]

or when it feels a shock (like you smash it)

[Nait]

I think i can be a scripter, please sing me. May be robots could be devided so :
with mechanical algoritm of work,
scripted robots,
they can be:
with strong programm, or
with channel of back link
and all them are diveded:
stationary
travelling
fighting.
I also can be a mechanic, what do you think?

[savask]

2 Bronie12345
You got the idea!

2 Nait
Yes, you can be a mechanic too.
But your classification isn't good. We can't divide robots by their specialitiy, because all of them will have learning algorithm, so you can reteach it to do something else.

2 Vytas
Can I put you to the official members list?

[Vytas]

Sure

I'm still thinking about what you said about the spinal chord. The sensors for a hard shock wouldn't be too hard to make, but I'm trying to figure out how u could change the weights of the neural network to actually learn to not do that again. Wouldn't the robot need to remember a given amount of previous input (memory) and then set the weights accordingly to not do that again.

It's really a mind breaker.