Whatever happened to "physical" computers?

[Qwertyuiopas]

For the fun of it, I am going to try to make a purely physical computer, however, I would like to know why the "best" (most interesting to watch) are mostly old things, made in old versions of phun.

It might just be that nobody has bothered yet...

[RicH]

I completely agree with you. I find the scenes before more entertaining then now, as they used no form of scripting. You, my friend, are a Phundamentalist. You stick to mechanical scenes rather than thymed scenes.

I'd suggest you put Phundamentalist in your signature ;P

Oh, and good luck on the physical computer.

[JaXNash]

hmm... yes, phundamentalist, that has a nice ring to it

i do sound like some sort of old technophobe going on about the god old days when phun was all about PHYSICS...

[totodog]

I hear what you're saying. Gone are the days of Livio's mechanical calculators, and the other mechanical computing devices. It's all about this new "scripting" stuff.

It's thyme for thyme to go.

[gradyfitz]

I could probably build a physical computer, but, the problem is, when you get to something that you control using just mirroring (quicker than using motors ), and is very elaborate, is that it gets quite laggy, if you wanted to, you could probably build a system that would do what you wanted, but, it would take quite a while, and until Algodoo is so far optimized that you can create a few hundred thousand geometries without having enough lag that people will criticize it because it's laggy, then it's very possible.

Though, if you wanted to just build it for yourself, then that's fine too.

Also, the reason that scripting is used so much is because of it's speed, though, a lot of people don't realise that they should build certain parts in mechanics, then transform it into a single object, then build the next section, and eventually build the full system into one single object, demonstrating that they aren't just using thyme because it's easier. Some areas may never be replaced by physical interaction, like lasers, because they don't collide.

[Mystery]

Thyme fills in the gaps of what phun doesn't have, like chemical reactions, electricity or just plan real timeing-ness. Yes you can fill these gaps with super cheap thyme or you could be more elaborate and make it mechanical. Things like conundrums super claw could be done with thyme with a lot more ease but the fact he went the extra mile (And 12 hours) is what makes it awesome.

[Tank2333]

yeah mostly its not as awesome to browse thru phunbox as in the old days only poc clan and and a handfull of other ppl making realy good mechanical stuff
it doesnt have to be full mecahnicle because what killinch can do with thyme is just outstanding
but phun is overthymed for sure and now maybe overlazerd (thats another story ^^)

but i think that the scenes are of better quality in avarage
as i remember at the end of 4.22 there where only 1 of 20 scenes worth to look at

but if we keep on making stuff mechanicle i think the Phundamentalism wont loose ^^

[Mystery]

Phundamentalist's have the lower hand, they are trying to fight a force greater then anything imaginable, Thyme. Thyme can make you shit your pants with a pin prick, thyme can make you turn purple with a laser, thyme can kill Godzilla with a single bullet, thyme can make you F**king fly.

[Tank2333]

Phundamentalist's have the lower hand, they are trying to fight a force greater then anything imaginable, Thyme. Thyme can make you shit your pants with a pin prick, thyme can make you turn purple with a laser, thyme can kill Godzilla with a single bullet, thyme can make you F**king fly.

thyme can be a very usefull companion for mechanicle work and i like that fact
because thyme can overcome the impossible

but...

when thyme becomes the only/major subject in a scene it gets a little bit boring ,
for me, i dont feel impressed when i look at a thymed scene because i know with thyme is mostly evrything possible and that kills the awesomness bit by bit (except for
computing and visual uses)

[izacque]

If the Egyptians used magic to build the pyramids, would they really be the same? If the great wall of china was made with bulldozers and power tools, do you think anyone would care as much as they do? The fact is, they did these awesome things without scripting. They used real materials to do real things and that is why they are respected. look at paradigms cannon and conundrumer's robotic arm. Those are the things that are impressive. Not some kid who thymes a bullet to fly or thymes an arm to do specific movements.

and that's why I have no respect for thyme

[Frank]

I am a fan of smooth integration between script and mechanics. Scripting allows one to do things that would be otherwise impossible or it can make barely-possible things much more efficient and tough. The biggest reason why density engines are more popular than classic fans is that fans break when you hit them hard. Scripting allows for camera work that you couldn't control otherwise and did many wonders for the game-making in Phun. I think it has its place for that kind of thing.
You also need to remember that it's still kind of a new toy as Phun stuff goes. Mechanical devices, while there is still lots of unexplored territory, are more-explored than the capacities of Phun coding. And not everyone knows how to do it either. "Cheap" or not, it takes some special skill.

[Conundrumer]

Also, the reason that scripting is used so much is because of it's speed, though, a lot of people don't realise that they should build certain parts in mechanics, then transform it into a single object, then build the next section, and eventually build the full system into one single object, demonstrating that they aren't just using thyme because it's easier. Some areas may never be replaced by physical interaction, like lasers, because they don't collide.

THIS IS A PHUNDAMENTALIST PRINCIPLE, RIGHT HERE
Also, something relevant to this topic
http://www.algodoo.com/algobox/details.php?id=29225

[Jrv]

Also, the reason that scripting is used so much is because of it's speed, though, a lot of people don't realise that they should build certain parts in mechanics, then transform it into a single object, then build the next section, and eventually build the full system into one single object, demonstrating that they aren't just using thyme because it's easier. Some areas may never be replaced by physical interaction, like lasers, because they don't collide.

THIS IS A PHUNDAMENTALIST PRINCIPLE, RIGHT HERE
Also, something relevant to this topic
http://www.algodoo.com/algobox/details.php?id=29225

Wow. I remember downloading that a long time ago. Had no idea what it was, all I knew was that it was ridiculously complex.

[DaffyGKH]

REDACTED.

[Fujitsu]

If the Egyptians used magic to build the pyramids, would they really be the same?

If the Egyptians built the pyramids with magic, that would be much more amazing than building it by hand.

[Chronos]

But they wouldn't have any soul in them. That's like comparing a piano with non-pressure-sensing keys to one with pressure-sensing keys. On the former, all the notes have the same dynamics and are boring. On the latter, you can put your soul into your music.

[DarkChaos]

But they wouldn't have any soul in them. That's like comparing a piano with non-pressure-sensing keys to one with pressure-sensing keys. On the former, all the notes have the same dynamics and are boring. On the latter, you can put your soul into your music.

What he meant, making it with magic would be amazing, cause it must tell something about what WE can do(as far as science knows human-beings cannot use magic[real magic, not silly tricks])

[Fujitsu]

But they wouldn't have any soul in them. That's like comparing a piano with non-pressure-sensing keys to one with pressure-sensing keys. On the former, all the notes have the same dynamics and are boring. On the latter, you can put your soul into your music.

It's more like comparing a traditional piano with a player piano. Those things are awesome.

[izacque]

GAH! I retract the crap I said about thyme! thyme can be cool. why did I make so many posts when I was a noob?

[RicH]

GAH! I retract the crap I said about thyme! thyme can be cool. why did I make so many posts when I was a noob?

Wait. You stopped being one? What the..

[izacque]

... *runs and cries in a corner*

[Chronos]

Hey, that corner belongs to it's_friday! Get out of it! That's all we have to remember him by...