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Where are the ppl?

Postby Tank2333 » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:38 pm

hey i just looked at the user count at algodoo forums its like 3 regestiret and 2 guests
and now look at the old forums there are 16 guests online... so y are they looking at a closed forum?...
i think they just dont get that algodoo is out
and when i search thru the member list i´here on algodoo forums there are only lik 15 active users
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Chronos » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:19 pm

here i am! :D

most of the guests there are probably bots and stuff, or people who cant read english, so they dont know about the forum change

and i guess people just left when algodoo came out, which is why there arent many users here :|
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Sniperkasa » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:54 pm

I'm here too mate ;)
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Tank2333 » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:04 pm

^^ i know most of the guys here and that is what im afraid off ^^
it so sad that this much ppl left.. :cry:
i hope phun/algodoo will survive this
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Conundrumer » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:15 pm

They're probably reading the threads and downloading old scenes
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Jrv » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:43 am

Chronos wrote:here i am! :D

most of the guests there are probably bots and stuff, or people who cant read english, so they dont know about the forum change

and i guess people just left when algodoo came out, which is why there arent many users here :|

Yeah, we see you. I find it quite disturbing that you already have over 500 posts. Really...
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby RicH » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:25 am

14.17 posts per day...
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Chronos » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:05 pm

holy crap, im OVER 500?! last i checked, i still had 75 to go :?

but at least i have an excuse now :P im making up posts for the people who arent here yet ;)
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Rhett97 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:47 pm

The only reason there not here is because there "Patrolling" the old forums.. waiting... just waiting for the moment.. when link unfreezes to make an announcement.. then they strike.. then invade "our" forums.... that fatefull day... will be the end of humanity... and algoryx..
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Conundrumer » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:39 pm

Rhett97 wrote:The only reason there not here is because there "Patrolling" the old forums.. waiting... just waiting for the moment.. when link unfreezes to make an announcement.. then they strike.. then invade "our" forums.... that fatefull day... will be the end of humanity... and algoryx..

Stop acting like Chronos.
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Sonic » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:52 pm

I don't know how much comfort it is, but at least I'm here. You can't get rid of me that easily.
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Sniperkasa » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:43 pm

Sonic wrote:I don't know how much comfort it is, but at least I'm here. You can't get rid of me that easily.

Atleast when you are right behind me, everytime I check :|
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Chronos » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:15 pm

Conundrumer wrote:
Rhett97 wrote:The only reason there not here is because there "Patrolling" the old forums.. waiting... just waiting for the moment.. when link unfreezes to make an announcement.. then they strike.. then invade "our" forums.... that fatefull day... will be the end of humanity... and algoryx..

Stop acting like Chronos.

he was acting more like thewonkits, IMO
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Sniperkasa » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:22 pm

Chronos wrote:he was acting more like thewonkits, IMO

and thewonkits was acting like you- so if you look at it..rhett was acting like you!
I think... :roll:
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Fujitsu » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:13 am

Fujitsu is here?

Fujitsu != old user.

I've only been around since June/July?
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Jrv » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:19 am

HAHA-no...
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Sniperkasa » Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:24 pm

Okay so- there are people here.. but not way too many active or far as many as in phunland!
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Tank2333 » Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:40 pm

yeah and i dont think that there will be much change in the next time
but i think many ppl especially the guests at the phun forums are been attracted by youtube
they see this physiks game and looking around and its called phun so they google it and google says phunland
i think it wouldnt be a bad idea to make algodoo more attractive at phunland maybe with a big banner like
" Forum closed, moved to algodoo.com go there for ultimate Fun "
or like " Dear user phun has risen to Algodoo visit Algodoo.com for info, forum and demo "

maybe that would help a little
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Sonic » Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:53 pm

I guess. As much as i dislike Algodoo, I think it's a good idea.
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby admin » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:01 am

We have fairly detailed statistics from the Phunland forums and even though there were rather many registered members, there were only about 150 that were really active, if looking at activity over a few weeks.
This should be compared with an estimate of somewhere between 300.000 and 600.000 active users of the software. Also, many or even most of the phunbox/algobox contributors are not active in the forums.

We still have thousands of downloads of the Algodoo demo and of Phun per day, but very, very few of these register in the forums. Even very few of those that purchase a license register in the forums. I will place a link to the forums on the download pages and in the receipt page/email, and see if we can get some more forum activity from that. Other suggestions welcome!

We will indeed also run contests, even very soon, but it is puzzling that we reach only a tiny fraction of our users with a contest if we run it in the forums. I suppose we could ask downloaders to (optionally) register with email, but we really don't like that... Our newsletter is probably the best way for communicating with users. We do have many thousand subscribers. However, we don't want to use the newsletter mailing list more than a few times per year, and mainly for new releases. Perhaps we will use it for announcing a contest after all.
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Mystery » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:51 am

What about a banner ad for algobox, That would help spread the word of the official contest.
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby tatt61880 » Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:52 am

I'm afraid that if there comes so many people into this forum, admins cannot continue to manage the topics of this forum. :/

There are already 111 topics 683 posts in Help / Bug reports section of Algodoo forum (2009/09/01-2009/10/08). i.e. more than 17 posts a day.

On the other hand, 1033 topics 6297 posts in Help / Bug reports section at Phun forum (2008/03/07-2009/09/02). It is 12 posts a day.

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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby gradyfitz » Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:44 pm

I think Algodoo/Phun forum was the first forum I've actively participated in, before it, I found little need to go to any forums, if you don't use forums a lot, I used to find that I could usually figure out any problems I had by myself, most of the time, you can find the information you are looking for just by using the search feature, which doesn't usually require registration, and if it did, usually I would register, use it, then go back to using whatever I was using it for. Forums, no matter how friendly, aren't a place most go when they need help, there's quite a chance that a user of the program you know, knows the answer to your problem, and if they don't, then there's less known users. Most people would probably follow this procedure roughly:
    Choice:
  1. Someone nearby.
  2. A teacher (depending on the setting).
  3. A friend.
  4. A friend of a friend.
  5. A forum.
Though it may not be the most efficient, it's probably easier to ask someone nearby: "Err, how do you do this?", than make a post explaining the situation they are in, the things they have tried, what version of Algodoo/Phun they are using, what O/S they are using and a whole range of other information they may think that is relevant, also, there is the speed of it, asking someone nearby is much quicker than posting a question then waiting one hour for a reply (even 10 minutes may be longer than asking someone nearby), chat applications are a fast way to ask experts questions, but frequently, chat applications are blocked in schools.

In conclusion, I think the people are still there, but a lot of people only join to post one single thread, I also think that a lot of the problems would be fixed using Google Wave (it was a wonderful idea :thumbup: ). Though also, there is also the consideration that when you get a game, your first instinct usually isn't to go check out it's forums.

A forum not having as many users as those who've downloaded the program is not uncommon, nor is it the fault of the company (usually at least).

Remember too, the Algodoo forums are only 1 month and 1 week old.
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Torpedo » Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:25 pm

I'm not here all that much now, my laptop died, and i dont have internet in the new flat i moved into. i intend to live there so little that i just see it as a waste of money to get the internet atm, so i wont be around much anymore.

I could put algodoo on my pen drive and use it on the university machines now instead maybe. Wait and see i suppose but i should be doing work here, got enough mechanical crap to do with my final year project as it is :lol:
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Re: Where are the ppl?

Postby Fujitsu » Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:51 am

gradyfitz wrote:
    Choice:
  1. Someone nearby.
  2. A teacher (depending on the setting).
  3. A friend.
  4. A friend of a friend.
  5. A forum.


Really? I don't think I'd ever ask a friend who uses Algodoo for help, let alone a teacher. The internet is my life, I may as well use it to my best advantage.
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