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Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:28 pm
by Jaxc
i know what i can do, i will do some addition lazors!

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:46 pm
by Conundrumer
Jaxc wrote:i know what i can do, i will do some addition lazors!

...huh?
Versieon wrote:I don't know about writen fast, but it sahould be readable a fast as the light cna reflect and get to a spot.

Tell me the max speed the CD can be read, in bits per second.

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:04 pm
by Jaxc
bad use of words, what i meant is im dong some addition stuff, i will upload what i made so far in a few mins

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:08 pm
by Jaxc
ok here it is:
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im working on it atm

right now i need to figure out a way to fix how to show this ^^

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:10 pm
by Versieon
this is compleatly diferent from what i was doing, but its very simple and can store 2035 bits of data.
should run as fast as the lazer can reflect...

this is where a filter would come in handy...

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Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:40 pm
by Conundrumer
Jaxc wrote:ok here it is:
http://www.algodoo.com/doobox/details/30368

im working on it atm

right now i need to figure out a way to fix how to show this ^^

Oh yea I forgot to mention that the refractor is also a beam splitter, which splits laser beams using refraction. Those ID 2 gates aren't really necessary, unless different input identities are a must.
Versieon wrote:this is compleatly diferent from what i was doing, but its very simple and can store 2035 bits of data.
should run as fast as the lazer can reflect...

this is where a filter would come in handy...

http://www.algodoo.com/doobox/details/30373

I would make a CD to show you my idea, but I still haven't gotten my copy of Algodoo.
But lasers run at 68 Hz relative to computer speed, no matter what the sim speed is (excluding lag). I forgot to mention this as well.

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:53 pm
by Jaxc
how to use it? :/

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:07 pm
by Conundrumer
Jaxc wrote:how to use it? :/

Rotate the refractor block 45 degrees, and watch the magic of optics

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:10 pm
by Jaxc
well to late for v2 but will try later, it looks way cooler this way

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:26 pm
by Jaxc
Jaxc, the way to do somthing completly wrong, but still sticking to the stupid way of doing it!

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Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:56 am
by Versieon
Its the universal logic gate!!! :o

NAND

build anything with the one piece.

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Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:07 am
by macunixgeek
I know about digital logic gates. Can I help design it?

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:27 am
by Conundrumer
Versieon wrote:Its the universal logic gate!!! :o

NAND

build anything with the one piece.
url=http://www.algodoo.com/doobox/details/30393

Cool. Can you make NOR and XNOR gates as well? Flips flops would also be nice. Also, a single pulse gate might be needed (when there is a true input, output is one laser pulse).
macunixgeek wrote:I know about digital logic gates. Can I help design it?

Design digital circuits? That would be nice, except I'm not too sure how data will be transferred right now.
Jaxc wrote:Jaxc, the way to do somthing completly wrong, but still sticking to the stupid way of doing it!
http://www.algodoo.com/doobox/details/30377

...That doesn't really look like full adders.

Okay people, before we go ahead and use our imaginations, we'll need to make the logic gates better. Better as in more reliable (no random split-second blips) and less laggy. Making the logic gate more reliable means some sort of design redo, and Making them less laggy means decreasing the number of lasers and rays (individual lines of laser beams). Read the first post for more info.

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:25 pm
by Jaxc
meh seems like i did forget to write somthing again

its not completly done, im working on it

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:04 pm
by Versieon
Conundrumer

I've finished a NAND flip flop gate, but i think you should update your first post with some of the created pieces so they're easier to find!!

Also created a booster for weak lasers.

XNOR gate finished
NOR Finished

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:42 pm
by Conundrumer
Versieon wrote:I've finished a NAND flip flop gate, but i think you should update your first post with some of the created pieces so they're easier to find!!

Also created a booster for weak lasers.

XNOR gate finished
NOR Finished

I was hoping you can create a basic flip flop gate module that doesn't use other logic gates, for saving space and lag.
The ID gate already serves as the booster.

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:40 pm
by macunixgeek
If you can make an integrated NOR gate, an SR latch would be easy to make.

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:49 pm
by Nxdt
I've done all the ciurcutry for the 7seg display. Uses fours scene.my varibles (laser1, laser2 etc.), to reduce lag, but made it so they can be taken away. Credit goes to conun for the logic gates and idea (and plans).

Needs tuned, change the values of the scritped see thorugh box. The double not gates are there to boost the signal to amuch bigger laser for final display.
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Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:07 pm
by Paradigm 29
Nxdt wrote:I've done all the ciurcutry for the 7seg display. Uses fours scene.my varibles (laser1, laser2 etc.), to reduce lag, but made it so they can be taken away. Credit goes to conun for the logic gates and idea (and plans).

Needs tuned, change the values of the scritped see thorugh box. The double not gates are there to boost the signal to amuch bigger laser for final display.
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Mine doesn't lag ;)
might not bode well with all the collab rules, but I just saw yours on algobox and just HAD to post mine :D

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:10 pm
by Versieon
Uplaoded these, SR latch dosn't work well though...

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Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:14 pm
by Nxdt
The SR latch works its just you need to make sure the beam is on for long enough. 8-)

edit; And nice one para! :clap:

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:17 pm
by Versieon
Are you sure Nxdt? I was having is not store a signal because the blip erased it.

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:20 pm
by Nxdt
Yes, it works best if you alterante the keys 1 + 2 but hold them for a tiny bit.
it does bugger up if you use 1 then 1 or 2 then 2 , just a matter of chance what happens.

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:21 pm
by Versieon
But the question is will it work in a complex computer???

Re: Digital Laser Computer Collab (DLCC)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:28 pm
by Nxdt
Probibly not because they are unreliable. Are you think of using them to store data?