1.9.7 Showing waring for normal users.

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1.9.7 Showing waring for normal users.

Postby tatt61880 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:31 pm

I've created an example image:
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There is some feature which is difficult to tell bug or not.
For example, liquify problems is not bug but normal users will think this is a bug.

So I suggest to show some kind of messages to users for exceptional (unexpected) behavior.
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Re: 1.9.7 Showing waring for normal users.

Postby hiltropper » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:29 am

i think this is okay but should be enabled /disabled in options
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Re: 1.9.7 Showing waring for normal users.

Postby tatt61880 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:41 am

hiltropper wrote:i think this is okay but should be enabled /disabled in options
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Thanks. I think so too.
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Re: 1.9.7 Showing waring for normal users.

Postby electronicboy » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:09 pm

Also, would be nice if users could change the warn limit?
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Re: 1.9.7 Showing waring for normal users.

Postby tatt61880 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:34 pm

electronicboy wrote:Also, would be nice if users could change the warn limit?

Liquify problems above is just an example, so it's a bit off topic. It is already possible to change the limit by changing "App.maxSPHSpawn", btw.
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Re: 1.9.7 Showing waring for normal users.

Postby TC42 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:32 pm

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Re: 1.9.7 Showing waring for normal users.

Postby electronicboy » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:20 pm

TC42 wrote:Support.

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@Tatt, do you mean to warn if user trys to liquify an object that make too much water, or warn if overall particle number hits a certain number?

I kinda suggest warning for both.


Also, for the warning, if it appears in a window, it should have a few options:
Okay
ignore (once)
ignore (session)
ignore (permermantly)
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Re: 1.9.7 Showing waring for normal users.

Postby Someone Else » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:30 am

Yes, also congrats on suddenly becoming an admin. More moderation = less spam, especially with an active mod/admin.

But anyway, pardon my ASCII art, I suggest the warning for too much water spawned at once or too much water in the scene should look like this:
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  ____________________________________________
|      Warning! You are trying to create      |
|           too much water at once.           |
|---------------------------------------------|
|      [Okay, don't liquify]                  |
|      [Ignore Once]                          |
|      [Ignore for Session]                   |
|      [Ignore Permanently]                   |
|      [Change Settings]                      |
|      Settings can be changed in the         |
|      Warnings tab in the Options menu.      |
\_____________________________________________/


Okay would not spawn the water,
Ignore Once would close the warning and spawn the water, but next time would show the warning again,
Ignore for Session would turn the warning switch- the one the above buttons left on-off, but would not save it in config.cfg,
Ignore Permanently would save the off position of the switch in config.cfg,
and Change Settings would teleport you to the appropriate tab in Options, where you can set which of three states you want the warning to be (on, off for session, off permanently) via radio buttons, and set the threshold with a slider. There would be options for spawning too much water at once, having too much water in the scene, too much lag, or anything else you guys decide to implement.

I would also suggest reinstating Expandables. This way, with an expandable menu for each warning, you would be able to see the options for the warnings you want to see. Pressing Change Settings on the actual warning dialog box would expand the appropriate expandable and contract the rest. There should also be a button at the top of the Warnings tab for Expand/Contract All.

Also, is it possible to create your own custom menus with Scene.addWidget? If so, how?
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Re: 1.9.7 Showing waring for normal users.

Postby electronicboy » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:44 am

Someone Else wrote:Yes, also congrats on suddenly becoming an admin. More moderation = less spam, especially with an active mod/admin.

But anyway, pardon my ASCII art, I suggest the warning for too much water spawned at once or too much water in the scene should look like this:
Code: Select all
  ____________________________________________
|      Warning! You are trying to create      |
|           too much water at once.           |
|---------------------------------------------|
|      [Okay, don't liquify]                  |
|      [Ignore Once]                          |
|      [Ignore for Session]                   |
|      [Ignore Permanently]                   |
|      [Change Settings]                      |
|      Settings can be changed in the         |
|      Warnings tab in the Options menu.      |
\_____________________________________________/


Okay would not spawn the water,
Ignore Once would close the warning and spawn the water, but next time would show the warning again,
Ignore for Session would turn the warning switch- the one the above buttons left on-off, but would not save it in config.cfg,
Ignore Permanently would save the off position of the switch in config.cfg,
and Change Settings would teleport you to the appropriate tab in Options, where you can set which of three states you want the warning to be (on, off for session, off permanently) via radio buttons, and set the threshold with a slider. There would be options for spawning too much water at once, having too much water in the scene, too much lag, or anything else you guys decide to implement.

I would also suggest reinstating Expandables. This way, with an expandable menu for each warning, you would be able to see the options for the warnings you want to see. Pressing Change Settings on the actual warning dialog box would expand the appropriate expandable and contract the rest. There should also be a button at the top of the Warnings tab for Expand/Contract All.

Also, is it possible to create your own custom menus with Scene.addWidget? If so, how?


Thanks :)

Well, menu would proberbly look abit cluttered, but i suppose algodoos devs. Should be able to come up with a less cluttered design.

Also, its not possible to create custom menus with scene.addwidgets. kilinch has an alternative though (see his algobox)

Also, water is only an example!
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Re: 1.9.7 Showing waring for normal users.

Postby Someone Else » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:00 am

You're welcome.

Which menu? The warning or the Options tab? The warning, well, not much I can thing of there, the options tab, I already explained that- expandables.

Then how does Tatt create all those example menu images? Photoshop? And I've used Kilinich's thing, or tried to. It takes forever to code, and there's no easily accessible checkboxes or radio buttons. I shall suggest my ideas on this the Algobox page for that scene.

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