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Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:14 pm
by Nxdt
Welcome,

A few years ago I made a Sorting contest in phun, and since not much is happening in this forum i'm going to bring it back for new and old members to have another try. But, I have also made a much harder scene with 5 "Coins" to sort, each made from a different material. (Gold, steel, wood, rubber, and stone). You will be judged on accuracy and time, but there is more on that later. The old scene was fairly simple, and i have remade it and included it in the same scene. Please note you can enter both if you wish.


Aim
The aim of this contest is to Sort the different objects into there coressponding box at the bottom of the build scene, eg. yellow circle goes in the yellow container. Try to do this as fast as possible and with as few mistakes as possible.


Rules
The rules have been included in the scene to make things easier. But they are the usual no editing scene blah blah blah...

Please use algodoo version 1.9.9b

Please note, thyme scripting is allowed, but may make way to easy so is discouraged.


Catagorys
This contest is split into two catagorys, Easy or Hard. Scenes that use thyme will appear in the rankings with an astericks (*).


Grading

Procedure;
All scenes will be tested three times with and average time and error taken. If i notice that the machine has failed on one try, I will remove that result if it works a fourth time.

Easy Scene;
Time taken ?min ?seconds. (The time from pressing enter to the last object getting in its container.)
Any errors +5 seconds (If an object is put in the wrong box)

Hard Scene;
Time taken ?min ?seconds.
Any errors +10 seconds


The Contest Scene

Rating: rated 5
Filesize: 1.42 MB
Comments: 0
Ratings: 1
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Leaderboard (Easy)
Name-------------------Score-------------Errors
monstertje3----------30.55s------------1
monstertje3----------35.94s------------1.667

Leaderboard (Hard)
Name-------------------Score-------------Errors
Silversmart------------66.00s------------0
Ravenplucker--------136.44s-----------1

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:13 pm
by monstertje3
My entry :D
My measurements are 30 sec, btw i deleted the starting box (wich should dissapear on enter)
Rating: rated 5
Filesize: 1.46 MB
Comments: 0
Ratings: 1
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Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:55 pm
by Nxdt
Hey alright.
Measurements;
1. 26.68s, 2 errors, 36.68s
2. 28.77s, 5 errors, 53.77s (Seems unusaual so I will allow a fourth try and exclude these results.)
3. 25.34s, 2 errors, 35.34s
4. 30.81s, 1 error , 35.81s

Average, 35.94s : 35.9seconds.

Added to leaderboard

Edit; I noticed that your device hasn't fitted within the box, i will let this slip for the time being as it doesn't make much difference.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:58 pm
by Ravenplucker
I've never made a sorting machine before, this will be... interesting.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:33 am
by Under Ground
I will give it a shot.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:20 am
by Someone Else
As will I... sometime... I think...

Lately, I have been considering reviving some of those contests from the old forum. I never did- haven't yet- gotten around to it, though...

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:02 pm
by Nxdt
Someone Else wrote:Lately, I have been considering reviving some of those contests from the old forum. I never did- haven't yet- gotten around to it, though...


I'm planning a redo of; The oil contest i did as well as a new rally/baja/offroad track thing.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:02 am
by Ravenplucker
I remember the oil contest! That was one of the only ones I entered.

About this sorting thing... goddamn it's hard. I'm mashing my face against the keyboard in frustration.
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EDIT: Question! Can bits be inside the geometries forming the walls of the ball containers? Technically they're not inside as such, more like on top of. :)

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:19 pm
by Nxdt
Yes i will allow that, and heres a tip.
Use mass to sort Gold/Steel from Wood Rubber and stone, and if you make the balls bounce the difference in restitution will make them bounce a different distance. Thats how i did it.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:59 pm
by Ravenplucker
I'm not using restitution, I'm using the weights. :D

Soon I shall be complete! I'm absurdly proud of this thing.

Mine won't win (unless it's the only one entered) because it seems to take awhile. It does look pretty cool though, and I've needed something to work towards for awhile now.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:17 pm
by Nxdt
Wow, only using weights that sounds hard, i tried to do that but i found it too unreliable to sort at high speed. Anyway, good luck with your entry.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:27 pm
by Ravenplucker
Thanks. If I ragequit I'll just post what I'd done so far, I reckon the concept is pretty good.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:28 pm
by Nxdt
Ok thanks i would like to see it.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:51 pm
by Ravenplucker
This is frustrating. (nearly) all of my problems could be solved by moving the ball-box.

*grumble mumble grumble*

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:59 pm
by Nxdt
Is that, the original starting container, or where the balls end up. If you can get it to sort the balls better if you move it then do just move it and see if it works, you can always update it later.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:27 pm
by Ravenplucker
The entire mechanism I'm thinking of would only work if the mixed-ball container was further to the right...

Meh, I'll move it anyway. I can't think of a way to make it work otherwise.

Looking at the time, I just realised I've spent something along the lines of 10-12 hours on this thing. :shock:

EDIT: I can get it to sort the first 5 balls flawlessly, but I can't figure out how to reset the mechanism. :|

EDIT #2: Done and done! I broke the rule about the ball-storer, but oh well. It's not about winning. :D

I also modified the colours, because the background was hurting my eyes.

Rating: rated 7.5
Filesize: 1.51 MB
Comments: 10
Ratings: 12
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Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:29 pm
by Nxdt
Wow, that thing is insanely clever. I'm so jealous right now its amazing, i actually love it. :lol:

Here is the scen i used to test that it is possible.
Rating: rated 6.1
Filesize: 1.44 MB
Comments: 4
Ratings: 3
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Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:22 am
by Ravenplucker
Damnit! Yours is so much simpler and faster...
but mine has sequencing! :D

It's a pity the contests forums are so inactive nowadays, this was real fun.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:28 am
by Nxdt
Yeah I enjoy a challenge everynow and then, and i'm glad that you enjoyed it.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:58 am
by Ravenplucker
I just set myself a new level of difficulty.

"Make a ball sorter that works without gravity"

This will be... interesting.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:46 pm
by Nxdt
haha, I can't wait to see this.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:13 pm
by Someone Else
I can't wait to see it either.

I will try to get my entry in today. I still haven't actually started on it yet, but I will work on it. I hope. If I remember.

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:32 am
by Ravenplucker
Someone Else wrote:I can't wait to see it either.

I will try to get my entry in today. I still haven't actually started on it yet, but I will work on it. I hope. If I remember.


For the easy or the hard one?

If it's the hard... then game on. :twisted:

Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:14 pm
by monstertje3
i made another one, this one hopefully doesn't make that many fails :D
(i got 0 fails at testing)
Rating: rated 5
Filesize: 1.43 MB
Comments: 0
Ratings: 1
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Re: Sorting Contest

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:47 pm
by Nxdt
looks good man. I Will rate yours and Ravenpluckers later tonight.