Teleporter

[Blazemann]

No one has built a good teleporter/portal yet, so lets see who can!

[standardtoaster]

Physically impossible to make.

• You can't get the size or radius of the object that hits the teleporter
• You can't spawn fixates or hinges in different places
• No scoring.

[Blazemann]

We don't need scoring if it is just to make one work. And that is bad talk. I think that an innovative way could be come up with.

[Frank]

There is no way to completely scan complex bodies with Phun's current tools(neither 5.28 nor Algodoo), and it is impossible to edit an object's position. Standardtoaster is right.

Don't make a contest if you couldn't make a decent entry for it. That's a good rule of thumb. Especially if you do not entirely understand the workings of the goal object.

[Conundrumer]

Don't make a contest if you couldn't make a decent entry for it. That's a good rule of thumb. Especially if you do not entirely understand the workings of the goal object.

At least make it have rules, guidelines, grading, etc. I already made 2 contests with stuff I couldn't make, but by making it a good contest format, people still accepted it and entered.

[Versieon]

Actualy, it can be simulated with simple shapes, and with existing tecnology.. You guys aren't thinking hard enough. It is possible!!!

[standardtoaster]

Actualy, it can be simulated with simple shapes, and with existing tecnology.. You guys aren't thinking hard enough. It is possible!!!

Spawning a premade object is not what a real "teleporter" would do. Besides, you can't spawn complex geometries with hinges or fixates.

[Blazemann]

Current tools can spawn fixjoints and Hinges, it would jsut be really complex. Don't mistake incredibly difficult with impossible. I do understand it, and if thyme used more of a C++ style, I would easily be able to accomplish it. But thyme has a style that I haven't fully learned yet. And also, are you sure you can't move things? I think that isn't fully accurate. You can move single objects instantly. Why not make a scanning system that scans a full object at once, using possibly hundreds of lasers, and simultainiously coping it as it is deleted. Or at least a grouped object portal is possible. Move you head to algodoo, things are possible. I know this is if people try.

[standardtoaster]

You can move single objects instantly.

Prove it.

Current tools can spawn fixjoints and Hinges, it would jsut be really complex.

Yes, as complex as it is, you can't spawn fixates or hinges at specified positions. Try it yourself.

1. Make or circle or box
2. Fixate the box to the background or another object
3. Select the fixate
4. Press control-c
5. Go to http://www.textfixer.com/tools/remove-line-breaks.php and press control-v in the top box.
6. Delete the parts from //Phunlet created by Algodoo v1.6.0 to the semicolon just before it gets to the Scene.addFixJoin
7. Click Remove Line Breaks
8. Click in the bottom box and press control-c
9. Go back to Algodoo
10. Press ~ or F11 to bring down the console
11. Press control-v and press enter
12. Read the errors that follow

I know that this is impossible. Some others and I tried this and it is physically impossible to do this.

[Jrv]

Fine, you want a teleporter, here you go...

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zbo4ttowdmm

[Blazemann]

Cute.

But you are not thinking straight Toaster. If it isn't specified, then where does it spawn? Vulah, that is where you begin the build. Listen, I don't care how impossible it seems. It is called trying because it might not work!

[Jrv]

Cute? That's groundbreaking technology there! I have yet to see you build a teleporter...

[standardtoaster]

But you are not thinking straight Toaster. If it isn't specified, then where does it spawn? Vulah, that is where you begin the build. Listen, I don't care how impossible it seems. It is called trying because it might not work!

-.- We've gotten progress on it. You just CAN'T! We've gotten geometries spawned bug just no fixates/hinges. I can EASILY modify my polygon cloner to delete the object it clones. That way it will seem like it is "teleported"

[Blazemann]

Yeah, well isn't the end result the same?

[standardtoaster]

Sure, I guess. I guess I'll make it then.

[Frank]

Whether or not it is possible to spawn hinges and fixates (haven't tried it myself), you can't detect them. There is no way to do this. There are a number of tools at our disposal, and none of them can interact with any object that doesn't have a physical body. An undetectable object cannot be read and recreated. A machine that will scan/delete/respawn single geometries is possible with varying levels of accuracy, but that's as far as it can go.

I suppose there is some room for creativity among single-object cloners, though.

[standardtoaster]

A machine that will scan/delete/respawn single geometries is possible with varying levels of accuracy, but that's as far as it can go.

I'm guessing this is something along the lines of what you mean.

Author: standardtoaster
Title: "Teleporting" I guess...
File Size: 449.21 kB
Rating:

[macunixgeek]

To recreate entire objects with fixates, your teleporter could set an unused attribute on the objects, and write the scene to a file. Then a C/C++/Python/Assembler/Ruby/Ada/Lisp/[Insert language of your choice here] program could read it out and modify it to spawn the objects at a new position. Your device could then read a script file written by the external program that spawns the object elsewhere.

[Blazemann]

Now, don't think that is the limits of teleportation, because that took only ten minutes to do.

[Versieon]

Heres the automatic fixate for all you who don't know how.... Can also be done with springs and hinges


Author: Versieon
Title: Fixate for Teleport

[Frank]

Blazemmann, you don't know what you're talking about.

[standardtoaster]

Blazemmann, you don't know what you're talking about.

Agreed.

Heres the automatic fixate for all you who don't know how.... Can also be done with springs and hinges


Author: Versieon
Title: Fixate for Teleport

What I meant was that you can't spawn hinges or fixates without onCollide. Ex. Object A hits Object B they get fixated together. Not Spawning Object A and Object B fixated together.

[coke5]

but when they spawn overlapping each other at the same time, they fixate together. so, they spawn fixated, pretty much.

[Sonic]

Here

Author: phunbox1 (Sonic)
Title: Teleporter
File Size: 2.74 kB
Rating:

Technically it teleports. It uses mirrors. I made it a while ago.

[RaRaMalum]

its really no problem to "teleport" a predefind complicated object(with fixates, springs, etc), but its impossible to do it with an unknown complicated object within algodoo/phun.

You can in theory make an external program that reads algodoos memory block in the ram, but that would be stupidly complicated.